Friday, November 19, 2010
Not Weather Control
It is a common occult belief that visualizing something helps bring that something into manifestation. It is a belief often found in self-help books, which advise meditating on a desired goal, for example, or in Christian Science theory, which claims all illness is caused by believing one is sick.
Constable is very mystical, as his being a follower of Rudolph Steiner shows, so it is not out-of-keeping with that for him to think visualizing DOR and giving it credence is what causes it. He once told me Blasband was "socking in the whole East Coast with DOR by worrying about it all the time". So nothing in all his many published writings over his entire 40-year cloudbusting career mentions it.
In fact, all his writings on cloudbusting are full of a control-freak attitude that he can CONTROL weather, make it do what HE wants it to do, and there is never any reference to RESTORING normal pulsation, never a mention of healing a sick atmosphere, never a mention of atmospheric self-regulation. It is all about CONTROL.
This sick attitude negates any value in his lifetime of work in the field. Constable is a brilliant researcher and has made several real advances in cloudbusting technique, but he is an authoritarian personality by nature, and such people should not be doing cloudbusting.
And the result is that after all his many years of work, there is not one PERMANENT result of it all. No DOR barriers removed, no deserts restored to normal, regular rainfall without need for further cloudbusting work. No lasting benefits to any region where he has worked. Only a return of the drought conditions every time he stopped working because he did not do DOR-removal, did not break down DOR-barriers that were causing the droughts, did not address the root causes of the problem, only the symptoms.
This was, of course, good for business; he wanted to be paid for his work, so if he solved a problem permanently, he would only get paid once, while if he solved it only for one season, he would get paid again the next year when the problem returned. This is one reason why cloudbusting should not be commercialized. There is too much temptation to cut corners that way.
So one of the most important things needed in the field is a clear definition of what the goal of an operation is and what constitutes success. Reich did deal with this topic, talking about the difference between a dictator and a guide, about establishing atmospheric self-regulation, about practicing atmospheric medicine, and so did Eden. And Blasband did too in his early articles in the Journal of Orgonomy. But Constable never mentioned it.
The medical model of cloudbusting is the one that gives the best long-term results, but the people who are control-freaks are not interested in it because they are attracted to cloudbusting in the fiurst place by the sense of power and being in control that it gives them. Look at the terminology they use: Weather Control. Beware of anyone who calls cloudbusting weather control; it is not.
And that is why the name of this list is what it is.
Constable is very mystical, as his being a follower of Rudolph Steiner shows, so it is not out-of-keeping with that for him to think visualizing DOR and giving it credence is what causes it. He once told me Blasband was "socking in the whole East Coast with DOR by worrying about it all the time". So nothing in all his many published writings over his entire 40-year cloudbusting career mentions it.
In fact, all his writings on cloudbusting are full of a control-freak attitude that he can CONTROL weather, make it do what HE wants it to do, and there is never any reference to RESTORING normal pulsation, never a mention of healing a sick atmosphere, never a mention of atmospheric self-regulation. It is all about CONTROL.
This sick attitude negates any value in his lifetime of work in the field. Constable is a brilliant researcher and has made several real advances in cloudbusting technique, but he is an authoritarian personality by nature, and such people should not be doing cloudbusting.
And the result is that after all his many years of work, there is not one PERMANENT result of it all. No DOR barriers removed, no deserts restored to normal, regular rainfall without need for further cloudbusting work. No lasting benefits to any region where he has worked. Only a return of the drought conditions every time he stopped working because he did not do DOR-removal, did not break down DOR-barriers that were causing the droughts, did not address the root causes of the problem, only the symptoms.
This was, of course, good for business; he wanted to be paid for his work, so if he solved a problem permanently, he would only get paid once, while if he solved it only for one season, he would get paid again the next year when the problem returned. This is one reason why cloudbusting should not be commercialized. There is too much temptation to cut corners that way.
So one of the most important things needed in the field is a clear definition of what the goal of an operation is and what constitutes success. Reich did deal with this topic, talking about the difference between a dictator and a guide, about establishing atmospheric self-regulation, about practicing atmospheric medicine, and so did Eden. And Blasband did too in his early articles in the Journal of Orgonomy. But Constable never mentioned it.
The medical model of cloudbusting is the one that gives the best long-term results, but the people who are control-freaks are not interested in it because they are attracted to cloudbusting in the fiurst place by the sense of power and being in control that it gives them. Look at the terminology they use: Weather Control. Beware of anyone who calls cloudbusting weather control; it is not.
And that is why the name of this list is what it is.
From My Correspondence.........................
I was not jumping to a conclusion. It is not a question of good people who simply need to learn what the facts are and will then see the light and realize they were mistaken. It is more like a statistical nearly universal human pathology to destroy the natural world by any means possible because freely-functioning nature terrifies most people. There are some very good reasions that this is so, historically and psychologically, and nearly everyone in this sick culture is like that. All environmental problems trace directly to that one simple fact: Humans are afraid to let nature alone and do not trust it to run itself.
All technology is based on that fact. Humans, most of them, fear the natural world. They do not believe it can control itself. They think they need to be in control of it. They think they are not safe on this planet otherwise. And that is why "weather control" is a popular concept, but hardly anyone ever talks about atmospheric medicine to heal a sick atmosphere and restore the capacity for atmospheric self-regulation.
The cloudbuster CAN be misused to control weather, but that is malpractice. What should and MUST be done is use it to fix the damage to the atmosphere that humans have already done by their technologies, not use it to cause more damage.
So when I see a group of humans who want to prevent a perfectly necessary and vital natural phenomena, I do not think they just need education. I think they need deep therapy. And as an environmental activist, I cannot provide that. What I have to do is stop them from committing the destruction they want to do. Why they are so destructive and how to change that is a problem for someone else.
Preaching to people will not work. It has a long track record of failure. And no amount of diplomacy will change that.
--- On Tue, 7/13/10, ............................ wrote:
From: .................................
Subject: Re: Correspondence...................
To: "joel carlinsky" <joelcarlinsky@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 9:47 AM
Your loss. Maybe if you paid more attention to the content of what I am saying than to the style you would learn something.
I do not see the Earth First! Journal being "diplomatic" to lumber companies or Captain Paul Watson of the Sea Shepherds being "diplomatic" to Japanese whalers.
And if you really want to do some good in the world instead of being on a power-trip, maybe you could concentrate on the issues of ecological effects of what you are doing instead of lecturing me about how to win converts.
I do not expect to win over many members of the Weather Rangers. They apparently have a mind-set already that hurricanes and tornadoes are something harmful that should be prevented if possible. That is an attitude common enough in this culture, but it ultimately rests on the orthodox science assumption that the atmosphere is not alive, has no needs of its own, has no organization or background cause for what it does, but is only a hap-hazard collection of inanimate gases that moves because of temperature differences.
That the atmosphere is a highly-organized system, and that it can be either healthy or sick, and that if it becomes sick it can be healed and made well again and can then resume regulating itself without needing further intervention is the real issue.
And instead of discussing that issue, you are lecturing me about my writing style.
--- On Mon, 7/12/10, ............................................ wrote:
From: ..................................
Subject: Re: Correspondence...................
To: "joel carlinsky" <joelcarlinsky@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 6:30 PM
I have assumed they are well-meaning; well-meaning idiots, that is. If a group wants to be taken as well-meaning, maybe they should start with looking at what they have done to be regarded as idiots. Your website contains two posts from two different members, referring readers to a slanderous defamatory article about me on the website of James DeMeo, an individual whom I have criticized for his repeated environmental catastrophes and who therefore has obvious motivation to defame me.
To characterize his lies and ad hominum attacks as "news" about me is perhaps typical of how politics is done these days, but really, now, it would be better to stick to discussion of the issues instead of changing the subject from a debate on the merits of weather control to a discussion of me and about what I did or did not do 30 years ago, how I make a living, whom I associate with, and even, for gods sake, what color paper I once wrote some letters on.
The articles DeMeo has on his website, and linked to on the conspiracy-theory website of one of his fans, are at best, irrelevant to any serious discussion of the ethics of weather control. So why are they being presented by the Weather Rangers as somehow having something to do with the points I have tried to raise?
Ash sent a post to the Orgonomy Mailing List asking for volunteers for a secret project. I correctly figured out what the plan was, and raised some objections that should have been taken seriously and subjected to meaningful discussion. I also sent some e-mails to some members of the Weather Rangers, including you, and at least a few of those got posted to the Weather Rangers website.
But so, apparently, did links to the BS DeMeo wrote about me, which was written almost 20 years ago. And nobody seems to have bothered to ask why he wrote it, what his possible motivation might be, and if it was really true or not.
So pardon me if I assume such people are idiots. Or at least they are not interested in a discussion of what, if anything, they ought to do regarding the weather. Instead of discussing the ecological issues of weather control interventions, they would rather discuss if I am a burglar or if I once wrote an article for Skeptic magazine.
I am not blaming the group for the silly rantings of Ash; he is obviously a loose cannon and his nutty ranting can be disregarded, but the rest of the group, especially a few of the most active members, seem oblivious to the serious ecological damage they might do by their "good intentions", which are really nothing but well-rationalized egotism and power-tripping. And if they will not engage in any real discussion of that potential damage, they deserve no more consideration than any other corporation that is destroying the environment for profit.
That their motive is ego-gratification instead of money does not make them any better. They are still willing to destroy the environment and any person who wants to protect the environment will still want to stop them. Winning them over is apparently not an option, so my efforts are not aimed at convincing the Weather Rangers; they are aimed at stirring up environmental activists to fight against them.
Most of my messages have been going to people on my personal mailing list, a list which includes many environmental activists, and my main aim at this point is to let them know that such a group as the Weather Rangers exists and is a threat to the ecosystem. So I present the facts without any concern for what the criminals who are trying to demolish our atmosphere might think.
But I did make recommendations. I recommended doing an environmental Impact study before making any plans for a project. That is standard procedure these days for almost any project, let alone one that could have consequences as far-reaching as this one. It would be highly irresponsible to proceed without one.
I recommended consulting an ecologist and I explained why that would be a good Idea. I recommended an end to secrecy and making all plans public so the public would have a right to comment. I recommended complying with environmental protection laws. Your lawyer would certainly recommend the same.
I have been involved in environmental activism for a long time and it is not for you to advise me how to be more "productive" at opposition to companies that are clear-cutting forests, strip-mining landscapes, harpooning whales, exterminating endangered species for the Chinese medicine market, or destroying the atmosphere because of their ignorance and egotism. I would be happy to debate you or anyone else ON THE ISSUES, but if you want to give advice on being "productive" you really need to clean up your act.
--- On Mon, 7/12/10, ........................... wrote:
From:
Subject: Re: Correspondence...................
To: "joel carlinsky" <joelcarlinsky@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 4:41 PM
All technology is based on that fact. Humans, most of them, fear the natural world. They do not believe it can control itself. They think they need to be in control of it. They think they are not safe on this planet otherwise. And that is why "weather control" is a popular concept, but hardly anyone ever talks about atmospheric medicine to heal a sick atmosphere and restore the capacity for atmospheric self-regulation.
The cloudbuster CAN be misused to control weather, but that is malpractice. What should and MUST be done is use it to fix the damage to the atmosphere that humans have already done by their technologies, not use it to cause more damage.
So when I see a group of humans who want to prevent a perfectly necessary and vital natural phenomena, I do not think they just need education. I think they need deep therapy. And as an environmental activist, I cannot provide that. What I have to do is stop them from committing the destruction they want to do. Why they are so destructive and how to change that is a problem for someone else.
Preaching to people will not work. It has a long track record of failure. And no amount of diplomacy will change that.
--- On Tue, 7/13/10, ............................ wrote:
From: .................................
Subject: Re: Correspondence...................
To: "joel carlinsky" <joelcarlinsky@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 9:47 AM
It's a fact of human conduct, that you can get more done by using a friendly, diplomatic approach, rather than an antagonistic, condescending, accusatory one, jumping to a first conclusion hat everyone must be bad, rather than good people needing to rethink their approach.
----- Original Message -----
From: joel carlinsky
To:
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Correspondence...................
I do not see the Earth First! Journal being "diplomatic" to lumber companies or Captain Paul Watson of the Sea Shepherds being "diplomatic" to Japanese whalers.
And if you really want to do some good in the world instead of being on a power-trip, maybe you could concentrate on the issues of ecological effects of what you are doing instead of lecturing me about how to win converts.
I do not expect to win over many members of the Weather Rangers. They apparently have a mind-set already that hurricanes and tornadoes are something harmful that should be prevented if possible. That is an attitude common enough in this culture, but it ultimately rests on the orthodox science assumption that the atmosphere is not alive, has no needs of its own, has no organization or background cause for what it does, but is only a hap-hazard collection of inanimate gases that moves because of temperature differences.
That the atmosphere is a highly-organized system, and that it can be either healthy or sick, and that if it becomes sick it can be healed and made well again and can then resume regulating itself without needing further intervention is the real issue.
And instead of discussing that issue, you are lecturing me about my writing style.
--- On Mon, 7/12/10, ............................................ wrote:
From: ..................................
Subject: Re: Correspondence...................
To: "joel carlinsky" <joelcarlinsky@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 6:30 PM
If you talk this way, and don't try to be diplomatic, I will be included among those who will just hit delete and not read what you have to say.
----- Original Message -----
From: joel carlinsky
To: ........................
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Correspondence...................
To characterize his lies and ad hominum attacks as "news" about me is perhaps typical of how politics is done these days, but really, now, it would be better to stick to discussion of the issues instead of changing the subject from a debate on the merits of weather control to a discussion of me and about what I did or did not do 30 years ago, how I make a living, whom I associate with, and even, for gods sake, what color paper I once wrote some letters on.
The articles DeMeo has on his website, and linked to on the conspiracy-theory website of one of his fans, are at best, irrelevant to any serious discussion of the ethics of weather control. So why are they being presented by the Weather Rangers as somehow having something to do with the points I have tried to raise?
Ash sent a post to the Orgonomy Mailing List asking for volunteers for a secret project. I correctly figured out what the plan was, and raised some objections that should have been taken seriously and subjected to meaningful discussion. I also sent some e-mails to some members of the Weather Rangers, including you, and at least a few of those got posted to the Weather Rangers website.
But so, apparently, did links to the BS DeMeo wrote about me, which was written almost 20 years ago. And nobody seems to have bothered to ask why he wrote it, what his possible motivation might be, and if it was really true or not.
So pardon me if I assume such people are idiots. Or at least they are not interested in a discussion of what, if anything, they ought to do regarding the weather. Instead of discussing the ecological issues of weather control interventions, they would rather discuss if I am a burglar or if I once wrote an article for Skeptic magazine.
I am not blaming the group for the silly rantings of Ash; he is obviously a loose cannon and his nutty ranting can be disregarded, but the rest of the group, especially a few of the most active members, seem oblivious to the serious ecological damage they might do by their "good intentions", which are really nothing but well-rationalized egotism and power-tripping. And if they will not engage in any real discussion of that potential damage, they deserve no more consideration than any other corporation that is destroying the environment for profit.
That their motive is ego-gratification instead of money does not make them any better. They are still willing to destroy the environment and any person who wants to protect the environment will still want to stop them. Winning them over is apparently not an option, so my efforts are not aimed at convincing the Weather Rangers; they are aimed at stirring up environmental activists to fight against them.
Most of my messages have been going to people on my personal mailing list, a list which includes many environmental activists, and my main aim at this point is to let them know that such a group as the Weather Rangers exists and is a threat to the ecosystem. So I present the facts without any concern for what the criminals who are trying to demolish our atmosphere might think.
But I did make recommendations. I recommended doing an environmental Impact study before making any plans for a project. That is standard procedure these days for almost any project, let alone one that could have consequences as far-reaching as this one. It would be highly irresponsible to proceed without one.
I recommended consulting an ecologist and I explained why that would be a good Idea. I recommended an end to secrecy and making all plans public so the public would have a right to comment. I recommended complying with environmental protection laws. Your lawyer would certainly recommend the same.
--- On Mon, 7/12/10, ........................... wrote:
From:
Subject: Re: Correspondence...................
To: "joel carlinsky" <joelcarlinsky@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 4:41 PM
Joel,
You would be more productive if you didn't condescend in your reference to the Weather Rangers.
Rather, assume they are well meaning, and make recommendations.
Don't assume they are idiots and talk that way. You'll win no converts that way.
........................................... ----- Original Message -----From: joel carlinskySent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:46 AMSubject: Re: Correspondence...................
And this excellent exposition shows why the Weather Rangers are fooling around with something they know nothing about. They have no idea at all of how the atmosphere works, knowledge that is the first step in trying to help it when it malfunctions.
In fact, they have no idea that there is even any such thing as a normal atmosphere, capable of regulating itself, and a sick, malfunctioning atmosphere, which needs help to return to self-regulation. They see it all as just something inanimate, something they can intervene in at will, to get whatever results THEY happen to want, irrespective of what the atmosphere itself may want.
The Weather Rangers are like someone with no training in medicine finding a shinny new scalpel and deciding to try it out by doing surgery without bothering to study anything about anatomy first. They do not understand the body they are proposing to operate on. In fact, they cannot even see it. All they can see are the television newscasts showing how "bad" the normal healthy behavior of the atmosphere is, so they wish to kill that normal healthy behavior, the strong circulatory storm systems upon which atmospheric metabolism depends, to obtain "domesticated" weather, more to the liking of T.V. announcers.
The Weather Rangers remind me of a suggestion by some anti-nature idiot that grizzly bears should be geneticly engineered to breed out agressiveness so they would make safe pets. No healthy person would choose to live in a world where such things could happen. Hurricanes and tornadoes are a part of living on this planet and trying to domesticate the atmosphere is what the ancient Greeks called Hubris.
And Hubris was punishable by Nemisis. If the Weather Rangers do not realize their approch is wrong, if they persist in trying to harm the atmosphere by interfering with vitally-needed storms, then it will become incumbent on those who understand the difference between a living atmosphere and a dead one to assume the role of Nemisis and put a stop to their nefarious plans.
If this means a weather war, fought with cloudbusters, one side trying to prevent hurricanes and the other trying to create or augment them, then so be it. It may come to that; that if the atmosphere is being vandalized by operations designed to prevent storms, we may have to form a group to do operations to replace those storms. It is a lot easier to create hurricanes and tornadoes than to stop them anyway.
And if we ever do decide we need to form a group to cause hurricanes, I suggest we call it "Nemisis".
Weather Wars
In 1971, in Caifornia, there was a weather war. At the time, Trevor Constable was doing cloudbusting under the auspices of the American College of Orgonomy. At the same time, a retired Methodist clergyman, Rev. John Roush, was going around demonstrating a cloudbuster at supermarket parking lots and tellin people he hads been chosen by God to prove the miracles in the Bible were done with cloudbusters. The two of them had spies out watching each others operations and both of them were doing cross-draws trying to interfere with each other. There was a week of very heavy rain that neither of them wanted and several houses slid downhill in mudslides. Some angry homeowners found out and wanted to sue them both, but were advised by their lawyers that such a suit would not have a chance to succeed.
More recently, James DeMeo claimed on his mailing list to have done operations from his home in Ashland, Oregon to counter-act the operations being done in nearby Medford by Don Croft. Croft is a paranoid conspiracy nut who uses a modified form of cloudbuster which is unlikely to produce much effect, in my opinion, but DeMeo has somewhat more confidence in it than I do and thinks it can cause droughts when left running too long. He may be right. I have not tested the device and cannot say for certain. In any case, there was a drought going on which DeMeo blamed on Croft and so he conducted operations to counter the expansion he thought Croft was causing. The operation was successful, regardless of if Croft was the cause of the drought or not, but if Croft really was the cause of the drought, that would not have been by accident. Croft thinks any clear weather is good weather and apparently wants to eliminate clouds from the planet entirely.
Such examples give one pause when contemplating the future of a world in which cloudbusting is common knowledge. If two ( or more ) individuals or groups have differing ideas of what weather is desireable, which one will prevail? How can such disagreements be resolved without one or both sides resorting to covert operations designed to interfere with the others? Will the general public have to endure weather wars in addition to the vagueries of natural weather?
There is now a new contender on the scene. A group calling itself the Weather Rangers wants to eliminate tornadoes and hurricanes. They are not Reichians and have no idea of the orgone-biophysical facts behind these very important weather phenomena. They think hurricanes are destructive and do not understand that they are necessary. If they attempt to carry out a program designed to prevent them, it might become necessary for someone who knows more about the weather than these so-called "Weather Rangers" to do counter-operations to cause hurricanes or strengthen those this group might try to weaken. This could end up being a full-scale weather war, with the public, as usual in m,ost wars, caught in the middle with no idea what is going on.
It would be a good idea if there was some respected body that could arbitrate such disputes and be accepted by all concerned. Such a body would have to be international and with a clear charter or mandate to be impartial. And it would have to rule based on the scientific facts, and not be influenced by politics. Is that even possible in this imperfect world? I do not claim to know, but I suggest it is long past time that the small number of people interested in cloudbusting give this matter some serious thought.
More recently, James DeMeo claimed on his mailing list to have done operations from his home in Ashland, Oregon to counter-act the operations being done in nearby Medford by Don Croft. Croft is a paranoid conspiracy nut who uses a modified form of cloudbuster which is unlikely to produce much effect, in my opinion, but DeMeo has somewhat more confidence in it than I do and thinks it can cause droughts when left running too long. He may be right. I have not tested the device and cannot say for certain. In any case, there was a drought going on which DeMeo blamed on Croft and so he conducted operations to counter the expansion he thought Croft was causing. The operation was successful, regardless of if Croft was the cause of the drought or not, but if Croft really was the cause of the drought, that would not have been by accident. Croft thinks any clear weather is good weather and apparently wants to eliminate clouds from the planet entirely.
Such examples give one pause when contemplating the future of a world in which cloudbusting is common knowledge. If two ( or more ) individuals or groups have differing ideas of what weather is desireable, which one will prevail? How can such disagreements be resolved without one or both sides resorting to covert operations designed to interfere with the others? Will the general public have to endure weather wars in addition to the vagueries of natural weather?
There is now a new contender on the scene. A group calling itself the Weather Rangers wants to eliminate tornadoes and hurricanes. They are not Reichians and have no idea of the orgone-biophysical facts behind these very important weather phenomena. They think hurricanes are destructive and do not understand that they are necessary. If they attempt to carry out a program designed to prevent them, it might become necessary for someone who knows more about the weather than these so-called "Weather Rangers" to do counter-operations to cause hurricanes or strengthen those this group might try to weaken. This could end up being a full-scale weather war, with the public, as usual in m,ost wars, caught in the middle with no idea what is going on.
It would be a good idea if there was some respected body that could arbitrate such disputes and be accepted by all concerned. Such a body would have to be international and with a clear charter or mandate to be impartial. And it would have to rule based on the scientific facts, and not be influenced by politics. Is that even possible in this imperfect world? I do not claim to know, but I suggest it is long past time that the small number of people interested in cloudbusting give this matter some serious thought.
Answer To A Letter From A Reader.....................
Hi, Laura,
To answer your question, yes, it certainly is possible that is what happened to Ash. There is enough in the orgonomic literature to show that a person standing too close to a cloudbuster can get overcharged from it. The best-known case is that of Robert McCullough,who was using a cloudbuster in the desert near Tucson, Arizona, and suffered a stroke resulting in a hemoplegia. Trevor Constable reported in one of his books that a similar incident happened when one of his friends got a shock from touching his cloudbuster.
In fact, I have been told by Mary Poe, Trevor's former assistant, that she thinks he himself is chroniclly over-charged from too much cloudbusting and that is why he has such an "inflated" ego. She thinks the chronic over-charge is causing a chronic expansion of his system and the egotism and arrogance he displays is the psychological aspect of that biophysical hyper-expansion.
I suspect there could be some mechanism of this type at work in the case of James DeMeo too. He certainly thinks he is the greatest thing to come along since Reich invented the orgasm. His presumption that he owns the atmosphere,along with his assuming the role of an orgonomic Pope, claiming the right to dictate who is or is not permitted to work in the field of orgonomy, is perfectly in keeping with the hypothesis that he is in a state of chronic over-expansion, accompanied by the inflated egotism that seems to go with the condition.
I recall that Sally Howe, when Gilbert was doing a lot of cloudbusting, and the cloudbuster was within 100 meters of the house, said the children were more restless and got into a lot of fights when it was operating.
All these examples from cloudbusting tie in perfectly with the known cases of over-charge from orgone accumulators. Jay Mikesell told me of his college roommate who wore an orgone vest and hat, used an orgone mattress, and sat in an orgone accumulator several hours a day. After a week of this he flipped out and had to be hospitalized. Jerome Eden was extremely paranoid, which cloud well have been his own reaction to orgonotic overcharge. I fact, I myself once became very irritable from keeping a small accumulator under my bed.
So the incoherent rage, inflated arrogance, insane threats, and total illogic Ash displayed in his recent series of letters to the OML and to myself and others involved in the incident does look as if he has been doing too much cloudbusting lately. I knew he had been doing cloudbusting in his backyard, in a suburb of Brisbane, Queensland. Thank you for pointing out the possibility to me. I should have thought of it myself. I guess this shows even I, brilliant as I am, cannot think of everything.
In Her Service,
Joel
To answer your question, yes, it certainly is possible that is what happened to Ash. There is enough in the orgonomic literature to show that a person standing too close to a cloudbuster can get overcharged from it. The best-known case is that of Robert McCullough,who was using a cloudbuster in the desert near Tucson, Arizona, and suffered a stroke resulting in a hemoplegia. Trevor Constable reported in one of his books that a similar incident happened when one of his friends got a shock from touching his cloudbuster.
In fact, I have been told by Mary Poe, Trevor's former assistant, that she thinks he himself is chroniclly over-charged from too much cloudbusting and that is why he has such an "inflated" ego. She thinks the chronic over-charge is causing a chronic expansion of his system and the egotism and arrogance he displays is the psychological aspect of that biophysical hyper-expansion.
I suspect there could be some mechanism of this type at work in the case of James DeMeo too. He certainly thinks he is the greatest thing to come along since Reich invented the orgasm. His presumption that he owns the atmosphere,along with his assuming the role of an orgonomic Pope, claiming the right to dictate who is or is not permitted to work in the field of orgonomy, is perfectly in keeping with the hypothesis that he is in a state of chronic over-expansion, accompanied by the inflated egotism that seems to go with the condition.
I recall that Sally Howe, when Gilbert was doing a lot of cloudbusting, and the cloudbuster was within 100 meters of the house, said the children were more restless and got into a lot of fights when it was operating.
All these examples from cloudbusting tie in perfectly with the known cases of over-charge from orgone accumulators. Jay Mikesell told me of his college roommate who wore an orgone vest and hat, used an orgone mattress, and sat in an orgone accumulator several hours a day. After a week of this he flipped out and had to be hospitalized. Jerome Eden was extremely paranoid, which cloud well have been his own reaction to orgonotic overcharge. I fact, I myself once became very irritable from keeping a small accumulator under my bed.
So the incoherent rage, inflated arrogance, insane threats, and total illogic Ash displayed in his recent series of letters to the OML and to myself and others involved in the incident does look as if he has been doing too much cloudbusting lately. I knew he had been doing cloudbusting in his backyard, in a suburb of Brisbane, Queensland. Thank you for pointing out the possibility to me. I should have thought of it myself. I guess this shows even I, brilliant as I am, cannot think of everything.
In Her Service,
Joel
About Me....................
Joel Carlinsky has been actively involved in orgonomy since 1967, when he took part in a summer-long cloudbusting project in Massachusetts. In 1971, he did the first full-scale cloudbusting expedition since Reich, in Queensland, Australia.
He also, later that same year, taught the first college-level course in Orgone Biophysics, for which 8 students received academic credit under an independent study program at the University of Massachusetts.
In 1973, after many experiments with orgone accumulators and medical DOR-busters, he repeated the Oranur Experiment, learning in the process how it can be done without the intense localized biological damage that disrupted the work of Reich. He also made important observations on the wide-spread effects of oranur work on weather and confirmed the transformation of radium into orur as first reported by Reich. He also studied the effects of oranur and cloudbusting on wildlife behavior.
In the 1980s, he became the first pilot to do airbourne C.OR.E. operations, towing a needle of orur behind a small plane in Arizona and Southern California, creating cloud cover in desert areas.
He also conducted experiments with small, strong orgone accumulators attached to fast-moving vehicles, made observations of the effects of DOR on sound transmission in the atmosphere, and has done experiments in pre-atomic chemistry, including Experiment XX, verifying the claim of Reich that new mass is formed directly from mass-free energy in freezing water, and further, that the mass that forms is of a biological nature. He also observed the formation of an organic-seeming oil directly from the atmosphere, a process first observed by Reich, but never published.
Joel was one of only two people to attend the only seminar given by Eva Reich, the daughter and designated successor of Wilhelm Reich, entirely devoted to orgone biophysics, rather than the psychiatric and child-raising topics which usually dominated her seminars. After that seminar, which lasted an entire week of 6 to 8 hours a day, she told him, "Of all the people who have asked me questions about orgonomy since Reich died, you are the only one who asked the right questions."
His most important interest is the potential impact of cloudbusting on the environment, for both good and ill. He has been an active campaigner for ecological responsibility in the cloudbusting field, in opposition to the growing mass hobby of cloudbusting at random by people with no ecological awareness or concern. This has made him many deadly enemies, whose hostility he regards as evidence of his effectiveness.
Learning Cloudbusting
The oranurization of the global atmosphere by technological use of radioactivity remains the worst threat to the long-term viability of this planet, but cloudbuster proliferation is a fast-growing second.
Much of the increase in weather-related disasters in recent years is almost certainly the result of the improvement in communications made possible by the internet. Cloudbuster proliferation has vastly increased in recent years, mainly as a result of well-intentioned fools who spread information about cloudbusting over the internet, imagining that they are helping to "spread the word", or in some cases, even fantacising they are thwarting some evil conspiracy to "silence Reich".
The belief is common in conspiracy-theory circles that there is some secret government agency that knows all about cloudbusting, is using it themselves for some nefarious purpose, and wants to keep anyone else from using it. Many of these people think this is the reason Reich was jailed, and that he was murdered in prison to keep him from revealing any more about it to the public. So they think they should encourage as many people as possible to start doing cloudbusting in their backyards to break the government monopoly on weather control.
The problem is further complicated by idiots who think there is some "information" someplace on the internet about "how to do" cloudbusting. There is no such "information". Learning to do cloudbusting is not a matter of "information"and cannot be taught over the internet. Cloudbusting cannot be reduced to a cookbook recipie of "do this, and this will happen", "do that, and that will happen".
The problem is further complicated by idiots who think there is some "information" someplace on the internet about "how to do" cloudbusting. There is no such "information". Learning to do cloudbusting is not a matter of "information"and cannot be taught over the internet. Cloudbusting cannot be reduced to a cookbook recipie of "do this, and this will happen", "do that, and that will happen".
Cloudbusting training should start with a through background in orgone biophysics, followed by additional study of how the normal atmosphere functions, the various pathologies that can take place in it, and what the causes of them are. Only then does it become apparent what to do in an intervention.
This is apparently not comprehensible to the people who think it is possible to learn "how to do cloudbusting" without bothering to first learn how the normal atmosphere behaves and the reasons for whatever problems may arise in it.
This is apparently not comprehensible to the people who think it is possible to learn "how to do cloudbusting" without bothering to first learn how the normal atmosphere behaves and the reasons for whatever problems may arise in it.
The first thing that a would-be cloudbuster operator needs to learn is not how to do cloudbusting; it is how NOT to do cloudbusting. The first thing to learn is what not to do; the mistakes and errors to avoid. Only after that is it safe to learn what to do. Yet this concept is conspicuously missing from the numerous websites that proport to teach cloudbusting to the masses as a hobby.
Specific examples of mistakes by operators who have published reports of their operations are an important teaching tool to illustrate to beginners what to avoid doing. A comparison of the published reports with an ecological analysis afterwards is the best way to show the whole range of possible errors. If someone is going to start doing cloudbusting, the first step should be to take a good look at what others have done wong. That is one reason I have published so many criticisms of the people who have published so much about their operations. They serve as the best possible illustrations of what NOT to do, and that is what a beginning student most needs to learn.
A good example of what NOT to do is the adoption of electricly-operated remote controled cloudbusters by Blasband, DeMeo, and those under their influence. This done supposedly for the safety of the operator, but is a wrong way to go about it.
The extent of the field around the cloudbuster can vary greatly, depending not
only on the size of the cloudbuster and how it is grounded, but also on weather conditions and the location.
Operator safety can be accomplished best by the operator
knowing what symptoms to watch for. Also, having another
person nearby, but not directly in contact with the
cloudbuster, to watch the operator for any signs of
overcharge.
It is also possible for the operator to take certain
nuitricional suplements which increase resistance to the most
likely sort of medical harm from overcharge. And, of course,
frequent immersion in water while operating is a good idea.
But remote control of the cloudbuster is a very bad idea
because that means separation between the operator and the
energetic system of the cloudbuster, and through that, of
the atmosphere, which deprives him of the most important
information input- the bioenergetic contact with the
apparatus and atmosphere that tells him what is going on.
Carolyn Cooper, while doing cloudbusting in Ireland, was
able to tell when the cloudbuster made energetic contact
with a storm far out at sea by the feel of the energy
passing down the pipes. That is the best way to monitor
cloudbusting operations. Without such direct contact, the
operator cannot know what results he is having until it is
too late to correct any mistakes.
There is no instrumentation that can tell what a
cloudbuster is doing to the atmosphere. There never will be,
despite the bogus claims of such devices as the
"orgonotester" that is sold by DeMeo and others.
The only way to detect atmospheric orgone changes is
biologically, and for that, direct orgonotic contact of
cloudbuster and operator is needed. That is why remote
only on the size of the cloudbuster and how it is grounded, but also on weather conditions and the location.
Operator safety can be accomplished best by the operator
knowing what symptoms to watch for. Also, having another
person nearby, but not directly in contact with the
cloudbuster, to watch the operator for any signs of
overcharge.
It is also possible for the operator to take certain
nuitricional suplements which increase resistance to the most
likely sort of medical harm from overcharge. And, of course,
frequent immersion in water while operating is a good idea.
But remote control of the cloudbuster is a very bad idea
because that means separation between the operator and the
energetic system of the cloudbuster, and through that, of
the atmosphere, which deprives him of the most important
information input- the bioenergetic contact with the
apparatus and atmosphere that tells him what is going on.
Carolyn Cooper, while doing cloudbusting in Ireland, was
able to tell when the cloudbuster made energetic contact
with a storm far out at sea by the feel of the energy
passing down the pipes. That is the best way to monitor
cloudbusting operations. Without such direct contact, the
operator cannot know what results he is having until it is
too late to correct any mistakes.
There is no instrumentation that can tell what a
cloudbuster is doing to the atmosphere. There never will be,
despite the bogus claims of such devices as the
"orgonotester" that is sold by DeMeo and others.
The only way to detect atmospheric orgone changes is
biologically, and for that, direct orgonotic contact of
cloudbuster and operator is needed. That is why remote
control is a mistake.
All cloudbusting should be done with the three "deeps" in mind.
DEEP SPACE,
DEEP TIME,
and DEEP ECOLOGY.
DEEP SPACE means all operations are global. Anything you do with a cloudbuster affects the whole planet. There is no such thing as a local cloudbusting operation. Distant effects should be expected.
DEEP TIME means remembering the earth was very different in the not-too-distant past. To restore the atmosphere to health is not the same thing as returning it to the way it has been for the past few hundred years or the past few thousand years. Paleoclimatology and paleoecology must be taken into account in deciding what is really normal and setting goals for the program..
DEEP ECOLOGY means all cloudbusting should be BIOCENTRIC, NOT ANTHROPOCENTRIC. That means the needs of the entire ecosystem should be considered first, not the ecconomic, political, or agricultural needs of the human species. Just as a doctor is supposed to treat any patient without regard to nationality or politics, a cloudbuster operator should rise above the human species and see himself as working for all life, not just his own kind.
Cloudbusting has more in common with a
> neuromuscular activity like swimming or riding a
> bicycle than with intellectual learning.
>
> It requires paying attention to very slight
> proprioceptive sensations that most people ignore, just as
> riding a bicycle requires subliminal attention to slight
> changes in balance and constant corrections to maintain
> course.
>
> Cloudbusting requires seeing very slight changes in
> color and light intensity in the sky, the feel of the air,
> the direction and force of the wind, changes in wind
> direction and intensity, and constant attention to ones'
> own body sensations of well-being. It also requires
> attention to animal behavior, such as frogs croaking, bees
> buzzing, dogs sleeping or barking, birds flying higher or
> lower, farther or shorter distances between resting, number
> of insects visible at the time of day, and how other people
> look and act.
>
> If your assistant becomes red in the face, if children
> get into fights near the cloudbuster, if birds come and
> perch on the cloudbuster, all these must be interpeted and
> integrated into what you are doing and how successfull you
> are being at it.
>
> The action of elevating cloudbuster pipes has effects
> on the expansion or contraction of the atmospheric orgone at
> very long distances. Operations in Bennington, Vermont,
> caused a nearly simultaneous reaction in trees in New Haven,
> Connecticut, almost 300 miles (500 kilometers) away. The
> electrical potentials between electrodes inserted in the
> tree bark changed according to what the cloudbuster was
> doing every time. A graph of the two factors is a perfect
> match.
>
> This shows the biological effects of cloudbusting on
> the entire biosphere, quite independently of the mechanistic
> parameters of the weather. That is why meteorologists have
> virtually no knowledge that is relevant to cloudbusting.
> Cloudbusting has little to do with meteorology. It is a
> biological science, not part of physics. It cannot be
> understood on a basis of physics.
>
> Cloudbusting can be compared to sexual foreplay
> or stroking a pet. You are stroking a big animal, the
> atmosphere. You are trying to get a specific reaction, and
> you must be alert to how it is reacting and change your
> actions as needed to get the response you want. But try
> explaining that to a meteorologist!
>
> People like DeMeo, who see cloudbusting in terms of
> how much rain falls, and think that is the criteria of
> success are the very ones LEAST competent to
> understand or practice orgonomic weather work. Look at those
> charts and graphs he has published! All that work to
> illustrate how much rain fell! And no attention at all to
> what the effects of his operations on the biosphere were!
> And yet, as Reich himself said in Contact With Space, Reich
> never tried to bring rain to Arizona, he did not bring rain
> there, and if rain had fallen, it would have prevented the
> growth of the vegetation that he did produce.
>
> Somehow, some people manage to read a book like
> Contact With Space without noticing that. They are too
> fixated on the idea that cloudbusting is
> "rainmaking" and entirely miss the point that it is working
> on the BIOSPHERE.
>
> I see contemporary cloudbuster operators as going
> farther and farther astray from the basic principals
> propounded by Reich. They try to use electrical devices to
> measure their effects on the atmosphere, while using remote
> controled cloudbusters to avoid the personal contact with
> the energetic system of the cloudbuster, and through that,
> of the atmosphere, which could tell trhem what effects they
> are having.
>
> They are so far from paying attention to their own
> bodily sensations that they do not notice that their own
> remote control devices, powered by electricity, are
> counteracting the effects they are trying to produce and
> making the drought worse.
>
> And they study physics and meteorology and think that somehow
> makes them more qualified to do cloudbusting, even though
> neuromuscular activity like swimming or riding a
> bicycle than with intellectual learning.
>
> It requires paying attention to very slight
> proprioceptive sensations that most people ignore, just as
> riding a bicycle requires subliminal attention to slight
> changes in balance and constant corrections to maintain
> course.
>
> Cloudbusting requires seeing very slight changes in
> color and light intensity in the sky, the feel of the air,
> the direction and force of the wind, changes in wind
> direction and intensity, and constant attention to ones'
> own body sensations of well-being. It also requires
> attention to animal behavior, such as frogs croaking, bees
> buzzing, dogs sleeping or barking, birds flying higher or
> lower, farther or shorter distances between resting, number
> of insects visible at the time of day, and how other people
> look and act.
>
> If your assistant becomes red in the face, if children
> get into fights near the cloudbuster, if birds come and
> perch on the cloudbuster, all these must be interpeted and
> integrated into what you are doing and how successfull you
> are being at it.
>
> The action of elevating cloudbuster pipes has effects
> on the expansion or contraction of the atmospheric orgone at
> very long distances. Operations in Bennington, Vermont,
> caused a nearly simultaneous reaction in trees in New Haven,
> Connecticut, almost 300 miles (500 kilometers) away. The
> electrical potentials between electrodes inserted in the
> tree bark changed according to what the cloudbuster was
> doing every time. A graph of the two factors is a perfect
> match.
>
> This shows the biological effects of cloudbusting on
> the entire biosphere, quite independently of the mechanistic
> parameters of the weather. That is why meteorologists have
> virtually no knowledge that is relevant to cloudbusting.
> Cloudbusting has little to do with meteorology. It is a
> biological science, not part of physics. It cannot be
> understood on a basis of physics.
>
> Cloudbusting can be compared to sexual foreplay
> or stroking a pet. You are stroking a big animal, the
> atmosphere. You are trying to get a specific reaction, and
> you must be alert to how it is reacting and change your
> actions as needed to get the response you want. But try
> explaining that to a meteorologist!
>
> People like DeMeo, who see cloudbusting in terms of
> how much rain falls, and think that is the criteria of
> success are the very ones LEAST competent to
> understand or practice orgonomic weather work. Look at those
> charts and graphs he has published! All that work to
> illustrate how much rain fell! And no attention at all to
> what the effects of his operations on the biosphere were!
> And yet, as Reich himself said in Contact With Space, Reich
> never tried to bring rain to Arizona, he did not bring rain
> there, and if rain had fallen, it would have prevented the
> growth of the vegetation that he did produce.
>
> Somehow, some people manage to read a book like
> Contact With Space without noticing that. They are too
> fixated on the idea that cloudbusting is
> "rainmaking" and entirely miss the point that it is working
> on the BIOSPHERE.
>
> I see contemporary cloudbuster operators as going
> farther and farther astray from the basic principals
> propounded by Reich. They try to use electrical devices to
> measure their effects on the atmosphere, while using remote
> controled cloudbusters to avoid the personal contact with
> the energetic system of the cloudbuster, and through that,
> of the atmosphere, which could tell trhem what effects they
> are having.
>
> They are so far from paying attention to their own
> bodily sensations that they do not notice that their own
> remote control devices, powered by electricity, are
> counteracting the effects they are trying to produce and
> making the drought worse.
>
> And they study physics and meteorology and think that somehow
> makes them more qualified to do cloudbusting, even though
> nothing in the meteorology curriculum has anything to do
> with cloudbusting, while they ignore the biological effects
> of cloudbusting almost entirely.
>
> And, increasingly, we read in the papers about extreme
> weather events like the recent floods in the U.K. which are
> the end result of mechanistic incompetents like
> DeMeo fooling around with cloudbusters.
>
> Children are able to learn cloudbusting better than
> adults not only because they are less armored and less
> indoctrinated into a mechanistic world-view, but also
> because they are more attentive to their own bodily
> sensations and to the physical reactions of other people
> around them, including people of other species.
>
> Also, children are, on average, more responsible and
> considerate than adults, especially scientists, most of whom
> would be willing to risk destroying the world to perform
> some interesting experiment, as the recent fiasco in
> Switzerland demonstrates.
>
> Cloudbusting is not likely to be
> taught in schools. However, there are other venues for
> learning besides schools. It might be possible to run a
> summer camp dedicated to orgonomy, for example. Kids from 8
> to 16 could come and spend 6 weeks studying orgone
> biophysics, including cloudbusting and go home trained to
> help the atmosphere in their neighborhood if they think it
> needs it.
>
> That would make much more sense than getting adult
> meteorologists and physicists involved.
> with cloudbusting, while they ignore the biological effects
> of cloudbusting almost entirely.
>
> And, increasingly, we read in the papers about extreme
> weather events like the recent floods in the U.K. which are
> the end result of mechanistic incompetents like
> DeMeo fooling around with cloudbusters.
>
> Children are able to learn cloudbusting better than
> adults not only because they are less armored and less
> indoctrinated into a mechanistic world-view, but also
> because they are more attentive to their own bodily
> sensations and to the physical reactions of other people
> around them, including people of other species.
>
> Also, children are, on average, more responsible and
> considerate than adults, especially scientists, most of whom
> would be willing to risk destroying the world to perform
> some interesting experiment, as the recent fiasco in
> Switzerland demonstrates.
>
> Cloudbusting is not likely to be
> taught in schools. However, there are other venues for
> learning besides schools. It might be possible to run a
> summer camp dedicated to orgonomy, for example. Kids from 8
> to 16 could come and spend 6 weeks studying orgone
> biophysics, including cloudbusting and go home trained to
> help the atmosphere in their neighborhood if they think it
> needs it.
>
> That would make much more sense than getting adult
> meteorologists and physicists involved.
From My Correspondence............
I had a bit of an argument with Jerry Decker recently over an article he posted about some cloudbusting he had done. Along the way, he mentioned some group he knew who he said were doing a lot of cloudbusting. I suspected he ment the Weather Rangers group you have mentioned, so I finally got around to checking them out.
I do not think the equipment they are using could really do what they claim. In fact, I do not think it could do anything at all for reasons set out below, but I sent some information on the ecological considerations involved in cloudbusting to the group leader anyway, and sent you a copy of the letter I sent him.
All high-voltage electromagnetic equipment can break up clouds. TV and radio broadcasting antenas, power lines, radar dishes, microwave towers, big transformers, etc. all irritate the orgone around them into a mild oranur state. Clouds near them will disipate from the expansion triggered.
There is no way to reverse the process. No possible EM device can cause clouds to form. Neither can any EM device attract clouds from a distant point, or trigger rain from them. But there have been several cases of people who have seen the disipation of clouds by some home-made electrical device, and have jumped to the conclusion, based on what they know of electromagnetic theory, that the process could be reversed by reversing the polarity. Despite a lack of observational evidence, they then convince themselves that it is actually happening because the theory is so persuasive and they do not understand the processes involved in cloud formation and how electromagnetic energy interacts with the orgone field of the earth.
So I think the most likely explanation in the case of the so-called Weather Rangers is self-deception by power-freaks who would like to be able to control the weather and do not know enough about either orgonomy or conventional physics to know it is impossible to do so by any electromagnetic means.
In 1960, leading atmospheric physicist Bernard Vougnagut, streched a wire over a canyon and electrified it, inonizing the air around it. A thin line of cloud formed around the wire. This is conventionally considered to be ionization of the air with the ions providing consation nuclei for water vapor in the air to condense around. The extent of the effect is limited to a few inches at most, but there have been plenty of attempts to extend it by using a wire grid to obtain a cloud cover over the area below it. This type of small-scale weather modification has been tried in Russia and Mexico . It is so far the only method of electromagnetic weather control known. And it is virtually worthless. Controling weather over a distance of two inches is a joke. And it cannot be scaled up because of the inverse square law, which dictates that to obtain any effect at distances that would be worthwhile would require more electrical power than could be available.
For the same reason, I remain convinced that despite all popular claims to the contrary, the HAARP antenna array in Alaska cannot have any practical weather control function. It is certainly large enough to disrupt the weather, as all strong electrical excitation sources do, but there is a vast gap between disrupting the weather and controlling it.
Several inventors have claimed a discovery of electrical weather control. A gadget called a "Joe Cell" has been claimed to alter weather. There has been some similiar claim made recently by a David Wells. Some of the "free energy" buffs have made a similiar claim for the Newman motor, a well-publicized free energy invention. So far, none of these inventors have done a public demonstartion of their devices under controlled conditions. But I do not accuse them of intentional deceit. I think they are sincerely convinced they have made a great discovery.
But if any such discovery is ever made, the effects of the device, whatever it may turn out to be, will have to be consistant with what we already know of the orgone energy envelope of the earth and the way it causes weather events to occur. No device will ever be invented that can do something contrary to what we know of the behavior of orgone energy. We simply cannot ignore what we already know and what is based on extensive obnservation just because some individual unfamiliar with the known facts claims to have discovered something.
And given the long history of group self-deception, from religions to the current "Global Warming" hysteria, the mere number of people who suport the initial claimant is irrelevant. A large number of people can get caught up in a fantasy or cult movement as easily as one person.
That may sound arrogant and narrow-minded to the alternative scientific community, but I am not running for office and am not in a popularity contest. And where cloudbusting is concerned the stakes are too high to treat cultists and fantasies seriously.
Joel Carlinsky
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- joel carlinsky
- I have been very involved in orgonomy since 1967 and have done cloudbusting, oranur work and laboratory experiments with orgone accumulators, medical DOR-busters, and pre-atomic chemistry. I was a student of Eva Reich and have a letter from her saying I have learned what she has to teach and she considers me "very knowledgeable in this field".
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